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-Makai- · Dec 18, 2010, 01:04 AM // 01:04

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Originally Posted by Pthoms T

Also, accurate positioning helps with the necro hero. You should be able to position him behind and to the captain's left a little bit (of the opposing team). Kind of in the center of a pentagon of their team. This way you get 5 people with holiday blues.

It took me a surprisingly long time to figure out the best position, so I drew it:

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/6448/gw013s.jpg

The red lines show you the 5 you are hoping to catch with holiday blues, and how you want to try position the hero roughly in the centre of them. The yellow shows the line straight from spawn. That is, when you spawn you can simply turn straight around (double tap s) and run straight to the enemy, and you will be in the middle between enemies 1 and 2, as shown on the picture. I tend to try and make the line joining me and players 1 and 2 completely straight, so you can see I'm slightly forward in the picture.

Seems like an unnecessarily long explanation, but I know I'd have preferred to have someone tell me this.

This is great advice; I'll be sure to try it once/if my ping gets back to three digits. Do you mind if I post this on my website? It's quicker for guildies to go there than this forum post. I'll give you full credit, of course.

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Originally Posted by sportacus

Am I the only one who can't win at SD? I've never tried it before now but I'm 0-5 and I'm not sure what i'm doing wrong.

The Ranger/Necro combo is probably the best, though I've been using Rit/Ranger (with Pyre as the hero due to disease) with fair results. The trick is to bunch up your foes by placing a Jack Frost behind the enemy captain before they turn red. You'll have to micromanage Pyre, though, since hero AI doesn't like to "stick" in this quest.

Cool Name · Dec 18, 2010, 01:24 AM // 01:24

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Originally Posted by -Makai-

This is great advice; I'll be sure to try it once/if my ping gets back to three digits. Do you mind if I post this on my website? It's quicker for guildies to go there than this forum post. I'll give you full credit, of course.

Yeah you can post it. But, as mentioned, over by the two rangers might be better. But I've had consitent success with both methods so far, and I haven't noticed much difference. Only times it is slower/I fail is when the hero moves straight away, and they don't ball.

Braxton619 · Dec 18, 2010, 03:17 AM // 03:17

Thanks ANET for making SDF (Snowball Dom. Farm) a piece of cake!

Also thanks for making PP super cheap now!

I been doing over 75+ runs with 2 accounts on 2 screens (with GWML). I been using Ranger/Necro combo and the runs are like only 1 minute or less. Since i'm doing this on 2 accounts, I get x2 rewards.

My Guide:

Anyways I recommend the necro getting behind Roland and wait till they are hostile. Then Blues. Then like 1-2 seconds later, Snow Fort. Then when SF is about to end, hit Snowcone. Have your ranger far away as possible on the right side. If they see you, they may go for you ending the farm. The group who was attacking you should ball up with Staci. Then have your ranger far away shooting Ice. They should go down in seconds.

However using this strategy I have found these problems randomly:
1. Sometimes they won't ball up and then your team will go down quickly ending the farm. I have no idea why this is. I'm guessing its either your ranger is targeting them or the necro didn't ball them up right.
2. Sometimes they will just spread and then you can't shoot Ice at them. No idea for this either.

Heres a screenshot of the correct ball:

It wasn't my best ball but its fine for the condition.

-Makai- · Dec 18, 2010, 03:30 AM // 03:30

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Originally Posted by Braxton619

I been doing over 75+ runs with 2 accounts on 2 screens (with GWML).

Why...didn't I think of this sooner? You, sir, are my hero.

Valerius · Dec 18, 2010, 03:41 AM // 03:41

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Originally Posted by -Makai-

Why...didn't I think of this sooner? You, sir, are my hero.

I've been doing the same too, it's really easy since you use your necro first, go 6, 7, 8 then switch screens over to your ranger for the easy kills.

-Makai- · Dec 18, 2010, 03:42 AM // 03:42

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Originally Posted by Valerius

I've been doing the same too, it's really easy since you use your necro first, go 6, 7, 8 then switch screens over to your ranger for the easy kills.

Sadly, I can't do that at the moment (currently waiting for a ram boost in the mail), but minimizing the second account window has worked well so far.

sportacus · Dec 18, 2010, 04:37 AM // 04:37

So if I don't have a Ranger or Rit am I screwed? or am I just that bad? I tried with my elementalist but I can't seem to do it.

Braxton619 · Dec 18, 2010, 04:39 AM // 04:39

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Originally Posted by sportacus

So if I don't have a Ranger or Rit am I screwed? or am I just that bad? I tried with my elementalist but I can't seem to do it.

You aren't necessarily "screwed". Wiki has guides of more than just R/N.

However IMO Ranger/Necro is less hassle and quicker than all the other ones. Also its the most safest.

novawhiz · Dec 18, 2010, 04:53 AM // 04:53

I dont get how you get them bunched up so nicely.

My nec gets obliterated while in fort after a few seconds and then Allies just run in and muck everything up.

How do you get them so nicely pancake stacked?

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Originally Posted by sportacus

So if I don't have a Ranger or Rit am I screwed? or am I just that bad? I tried with my elementalist but I can't seem to do it.

I tried doing it today with my sin then ele then monk. It was very frustrating and not worth it. Of course, the 2 proffessions i never made were ranger + rit, but i decided this was an excuse to finally make ranger and it only took /age 2 hours to get to Snowball Dominance with olias, so i would just make a ranger. Its worth it in the long run. Much safer/faster/easier runs

Braxton619 · Dec 18, 2010, 05:03 AM // 05:03

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Originally Posted by novawhiz

I dont get how you get them bunched up so nicely.

My nec gets obliterated while in fort after a few seconds and then Allies just run in and muck everything up.

How do you get them so nicely pancake stacked?

It's hard to explain but for some reason Roland's group "likes" to group with Staci. I have no idea why.

Just POS yourself behind Roland, 6-7-8 and maybe the right side will join the left side.

-Makai- · Dec 18, 2010, 06:14 AM // 06:14

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Originally Posted by novawhiz

How do you get them so nicely pancake stacked?

The trick is all in the timing, it seems. I'd wait 2-3 seconds after the enemies turn red, hit Holiday Blues, wait 1 second (during which they'll use their Forts), then Ice Fort, then Snowcone.

go cubs · Dec 18, 2010, 07:08 AM // 07:08

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Originally Posted by -Makai-

Why...didn't I think of this sooner? You, sir, are my hero.

Yeah i as well have been doing this, seems to get me tons of gifts xD

Chasing Squirrels · Dec 18, 2010, 03:55 PM // 15:55

I've been trying this with my necro hero while i am a mesmer since thats my main and i want to max ebon rank. Anyway i got the run down to 2minutes this way only problem is sometimes when i flag my hero she constantly runs around like a headless chicken and i have her on don't attack and i manually use spells 6,7,8.

Anyone have an idea why she runs around while flagged?

FoxBat · Dec 18, 2010, 04:04 PM // 16:04

Using "don't attack" is going to cause more trouble than anything. Attack is far preferable. Just disable snow down the shirt (along with most skills you aren't using, but keep basic snowball avaliable so they spam that instead of running.)

Hobbs · Dec 18, 2010, 04:07 PM // 16:07

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Originally Posted by Chasing Squirrels

Anyone have an idea why she runs around while flagged?

Are you using the "All" flag rather that the "1" flag?

Fay Vert · Dec 18, 2010, 05:34 PM // 17:34

The update that made flagged heroes run around like headless chickens happend a long time ago, though I have to say it does seem particularly bad in this quest, both party flag and individual flag, makes no difference.

Braxton619 · Dec 18, 2010, 05:48 PM // 17:48

UPDATE:

I found this spot the best spot. Do not go behind Roland because it will make the run worse. Here's the spot:

Also to those who are doing it with a hero, why not just get a PUG or GWML?

RedDog91 · Dec 18, 2010, 06:09 PM // 18:09

if you don't have a 2nd account or a friend online 24/7, I just uploaded a "how to use necro hero correctly" video.
Best to just let hero die because it will ball enemies better than letting it live. Only effective way to ball while alive is if you have human team-mate.

Laraja · Dec 18, 2010, 06:37 PM // 18:37

Very awesome.

I like that they've done something similiar with presents as they did with ToT bags. Playing something fun like Snowball Dominance is perfect instead of endless farming. My guildmates and I are having a great time.

The people who don't like it are those who like to charge exorbitant prices for stacks of gifts. Now it's easy for everyone to enjoy gifts,and really that's the way it should be.

Chasing Squirrels · Dec 18, 2010, 06:54 PM // 18:54

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Originally Posted by Hobbs

Are you using the "All" flag rather that the "1" flag?

Yup I use flag 1 for hero 1. Not the one which moves all heroes and hench. Its annoying cause after i use holiday blues and i activate snow fort she doesn't stand still